Inactive Scouts in Patrols

Mike sent in this question:

We have a large Troop of about 125 scouts and about 14 patrols. We recently tried to do patrol leadership elections but did not have enough scouts present to elect anyone. Most of our really active scouts are already in a leadership position or have already been in one. Any thoughts on how to organize our patrols?

One thought we had was to have them be really big like 20-30 scouts so that at any given meeting or outing we would end up with a patrol of a more reasonable size. However what I really feel like we are doing is addressing a symptom of an overall participation problem as most outings have 40 or less scouts on them (some get cancelled due to lack of participation – really with 125 scouts that seems off).

The Troop has always had a lot of activities going on and let Scouts choose but as a result we are very adult lead and I want to change that but if I can’t get patrol leaders elected and them to start acting like patrols it is a hard change to make.

We have had to deal with the problem of inactive scouts and patrols also. We actually have a separate patrol for our completely inactive scouts. These are the ones who are still registered with the troop but don’t come to meetings or outings at all.  A more difficult question is what to do with the minimally active scouts – the ones who only show up occasionally. They need to be in a patrol for the  activities they do participate in, but if you have too many in one patrol, you end up with a patrol with only three or four “regular” members.

We have somewhat left it up to the patrols. One of our patrols has six members, but only three show up on a regular basis. But they are close and like their patrol the way it is. On campouts, they sometimes team up with another patrol (usually as a form of mentoring the newer Scouts) for purchasing food, cooking, etc.. The other option the scouts have tried is to have a dozen or more in a patrol. This leads to higher numbers for activities, but can be difficult for the patrol leader to manage.

The reality is that many of our scouts are really busy. They are involved in sports, theater,band, clubs, and attend college prep schools where they get three or four hours of homework each day. They enjoy scouting, but often don’t know from week to week if they will be at the meetings.   Sure, they might have too much on their plates, but I feel the program should be available to them. All of these things they are doing are good activities. But it does make it difficult to use the patrol method when they are only there 15% of the time.

Readers, have you experienced this problem? How do your troops handle inactive scouts? Add your comments at the bottom of this post.

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Karen asked this question about how many count as a patrol: “How many from a Patrol does there need to be to qualify as doing “anything” as a Patrol?”

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What Is Active Participation?

Active participation in the Scouting program is required for advancement. So Scouts who are not participating in patrol activities might have difficulty advancing. See section 4.2.3.1 of the Guide to Advancement for details.